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What if my salary expired after 90 days? I would have to spend, invest,
or lose the money, saving is not an option. With elecronic cash, it would be possible to track each pound and give it a date after which it would no longer be valid. An advantage of this is that the currency could be gold backed (cheating?) or limited by maths (* la bitcoin). However GDP should go up, creating employment, since the velocity of the money should increase. Investing would be an option, helping business to grow. Something like this may be needed with universal income, to make sure the money is spent. Inflation is one way to get people to spend, but always ends badly. There are some practicalities. E.g. money between individuals would still expire, but money paid by a medium/large business into a bank would get a new 90 day start. |
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On 9/12/2017 10:12 PM, Dave wrote:
What if my salary expired after 90 days? I would have to spend, invest, or lose the money, saving is not an option. With elecronic cash, it would be possible to track each pound and give it a date after which it would no longer be valid. It's called inflation, Your Honor! The usual assumption is 5% annually. -- @[email protected] Remain silent! Drink, Blink, Stretch! Live long and prosper!! / v \ Simplicity is Beauty! /( _ )\ May the Force and farces be with you! ^ ^ (x86_64 Ubuntu 9.10) Linux 2.6.39.3 不借貸! 不詐騙! 不援交! 不打交! 不打劫! 不自殺! 請考慮綜援 (CSSA): http://www.swd.gov.hk/tc/index/site_...sub_addressesa |
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On Sat, 9 Dec 2017 14:12:12 +0000, Dave wrote:
What if my salary expired after 90 days? I would have to spend, invest, or lose the money, saving is not an option. With elecronic cash, it would be possible to track each pound and give it a date after which it would no longer be valid. An advantage of this is that the currency could be gold backed (cheating?) or limited by maths ( la bitcoin). Yes, either, or both, could be used, but would this be a requirement? And currency could be backed by gold now. It wouldn't require it be electronic. I don't see it happening, however. However GDP should go up, creating employment, since the velocity of the money should increase. Investing would be an option, helping business to grow. Something like this may be needed with universal income, to make sure the money is spent. Inflation is one way to get people to spend, but always ends badly. There are some practicalities. E.g. money between individuals would still expire, but money paid by a medium/large business into a bank would get a new 90 day start. A problem I see is with gifts. If I should gift X amount to a person or charity, does the expiration date change? If I give my children X amount each week as an allowance, are they required to spend it within the time allotted me, or do they get a fresh 90 days. What if one child wishes to buy the newest game console and opts to save up to buy it. To reach the required funds, it will take them 120 days. If the money expires at 90 days, they will never be able to reach the amount needed. The same could apply to a charitable organization. Charity "A" may wish to help in the purchase a specific medial device for a local hospital. In order to reach the amount needed to meet the finical burden they have, it might take six months with standard donations. But they can never reach that level due to the money expiring after 90 days, or less, of the gifted money being received. There would be some real advantages to expiring money. You point out GDP. But there would be a lot of disadvantages that diminish any advantages. -- Shill #3. Strategic Writer, Psychotronic World Dominator and FEMA camp counselor. https://c2.staticflickr.com/4/3618/5...202191d3_b.jpg All hail the taco! http://www.taconati.org/ |
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On 09/12/2017 20:03, KWills Shill #3 wrote:
On Sat, 9 Dec 2017 14:12:12 +0000, Dave wrote: What if my salary expired after 90 days? I would have to spend, invest, or lose the money, saving is not an option. With elecronic cash, it would be possible to track each pound and give it a date after which it would no longer be valid. An advantage of this is that the currency could be gold backed (cheating?) or limited by maths ( la bitcoin). Yes, either, or both, could be used, but would this be a requirement? And currency could be backed by gold now. It wouldn't require it be electronic. I don't see it happening, however. The problem with FIAT money is that someone gets the idea that more is better, and it ends badly with bubbles and inflation. The problem with gold standard money is that the rich and powerful get to accumulate the money, and everyone else is at subsistence level to serve their needs. However GDP should go up, creating employment, since the velocity of the money should increase. Investing would be an option, helping business to grow. Something like this may be needed with universal income, to make sure the money is spent. Inflation is one way to get people to spend, but always ends badly. There are some practicalities. E.g. money between individuals would still expire, but money paid by a medium/large business into a bank would get a new 90 day start. A problem I see is with gifts. If I should gift X amount to a person or charity, does the expiration date change? If I give my children X amount each week as an allowance, are they required to spend it within the time allotted me, or do they get a fresh 90 days. What if one child wishes to buy the newest game console and opts to save up to buy it. To reach the required funds, it will take them 120 days. If the money expires at 90 days, they will never be able to reach the amount needed. The same could apply to a charitable organization. Charity "A" may wish to help in the purchase a specific medial device for a local hospital. In order to reach the amount needed to meet the finical burden they have, it might take six months with standard donations. But they can never reach that level due to the money expiring after 90 days, or less, of the gifted money being received. There would be some real advantages to expiring money. You point out GDP. But there would be a lot of disadvantages that diminish any advantages. Whereto? Maybe someone can get a prof. to sponsor a paper about this. The possibilities of electronic money are not just negative interest rates. |
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