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A fare-free travel system for the UK



 
 
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Old January 16th 11, 01:39 AM posted to uk.transport.london,uk.railway,uk.finance,uk.local.london
thedarkman
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Default A fare-free travel system for the UK

Basic details of how it would be funded are given below.

http://www.financialreform.info/f_r_free_travel.html
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Old January 16th 11, 11:23 AM posted to uk.transport.london,uk.railway,uk.finance,uk.local.london
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Default A fare-free travel system for the UK

On Jan 16, 1:39*am, thedarkman wrote:
http://www.financialreform.info/f_r_free_travel.html


"The following calculations, for this much grander scheme – a totally
fare-free rail service for the entire UK – are based on figures
provided by Paul Withrington of Transport-Watch"

He's the nutter who'd like to achieve a fare-free rail network by
getting rid of trains and converting all the railways into roads.
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Old January 16th 11, 11:25 AM posted to uk.transport.london,uk.railway,uk.finance,uk.local.london
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Default A fare-free travel system for the UK


"thedarkman" wrote in message
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Basic details of how it would be funded are given below.

http://www.financialreform.info/f_r_free_travel.html


Or alternatively

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alice's_Adventures_in_Wonderland#Synopsis



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Old January 16th 11, 06:26 PM posted to uk.transport.london,uk.railway,uk.finance,uk.local.london
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Default A fare-free travel system for the UK

thedarkman wrote:
Basic details of how it would be funded are given below.

http://www.financialreform.info/f_r_free_travel.html




That is hilarious! Have you considered a career as a comedian?

It's the funniest thing I have read this year, apart from "Dumb"
Bell's daft N-S high speed railway proposals. Thanks for posting!

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Old January 16th 11, 08:03 PM posted to uk.transport.london,uk.railway,uk.finance,uk.local.london
Bevan Price
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Default A fare-free travel system for the UK

On 16/01/2011 01:39, thedarkman wrote:
Basic details of how it would be funded are given below.

http://www.financialreform.info/f_r_free_travel.html



A bit long and rambling, but an interesting idea. Trouble is that there
are too many vested interests to stop it happening.

You would probably get the Murdoch press, the Torygraph, Brucie, etc.,
whingeing about the 5p in the £ extra income tax to pay for it.

The railway unions would oppose it because of all the staff who would
lose their jobs.

The car & oil industries would moan because it might reduce the sales of
cars & petrol.

The bus company shareholders would whinge about loss of dividends from
their TOC's

The EU would probably say it is unfair competition for the car industry.

etc., etc.

Bevan



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Old January 17th 11, 08:08 AM posted to uk.transport.london,uk.railway,uk.finance,uk.local.london
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Default A fare-free travel system for the UK


"Bevan Price" wrote in message
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On 16/01/2011 01:39, thedarkman wrote:
Basic details of how it would be funded are given below.

http://www.financialreform.info/f_r_free_travel.html



A bit long and rambling, but an interesting idea. Trouble is that
there are too many vested interests to stop it happening.

You would probably get the Murdoch press, the Torygraph, Brucie,
etc., whingeing about the 5p in the £ extra income tax to pay for
it.


Many people would choose to give up running a car,,,,, they would be
better off, even with a 5p increase in the tax rate?

The railway unions would oppose it because of all the staff who
would lose their jobs.


More people using more trains, more routes being opened (or re-opened)
would result in more staff being employed?



The car & oil industries would moan because it might reduce the
sales of cars & petrol.


And??? (Personally I would put the oil companys in the same heap as
bankers and politicians..... a heap ready to be loaded on the next
tumbrill.... ).... )


The bus company shareholders would whinge about loss of dividends
from their TOC's


See above.

The EU would probably say it is unfair competition for the car
industry.

Let them say what they like. If the EU doesn't like it, let them expel
us.

etc., etc.

Bevan





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Old January 17th 11, 08:59 AM posted to uk.transport.london,uk.railway,uk.finance,uk.local.london
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On Sun, 16 Jan 2011 20:03:12 +0000, Bevan Price wrote
On 16/01/2011 01:39, thedarkman wrote:
Basic details of how it would be funded are given below.

http://www.financialreform.info/f_r_free_travel.html



A bit long and rambling, but an interesting idea. Trouble is that there
are too many vested interests to stop it happening.

You would probably get the Murdoch press, the Torygraph, Brucie, etc.,
whingeing about the 5p in the £ extra income tax to pay for it.


I suspect it suspect it wouldn't be just those that would complain about a 5%
income tax raise to pay solely for free train travel!


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Old January 17th 11, 09:15 AM posted to uk.transport.london,uk.railway,uk.finance,uk.local.london
Stimpy
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On Mon, 17 Jan 2011 08:08:56 +0000, Ian wrote

You would probably get the Murdoch press, the Torygraph, Brucie,
etc., whingeing about the 5p in the £ extra income tax to pay for
it.


Many people would choose to give up running a car,,,,, they would be
better off, even with a 5p increase in the tax rate?


Most people don't live within walking distance of a railway station.
Many don't live within a bus ride of a railway station.
A considerable number don't live within a £20 taxi ride of a railway station.

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Old January 17th 11, 11:22 AM posted to uk.transport.london,uk.railway,uk.finance,uk.local.london
Stimpy
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On Mon, 17 Jan 2011 10:45:04 +0000, brightside S9 wrote
On Mon, 17 Jan 2011 08:59:41 +0000, Stimpy
wrote:

On Sun, 16 Jan 2011 20:03:12 +0000, Bevan Price wrote
On 16/01/2011 01:39, thedarkman wrote:
Basic details of how it would be funded are given below.

http://www.financialreform.info/f_r_free_travel.html


A bit long and rambling, but an interesting idea. Trouble is that there
are too many vested interests to stop it happening.

You would probably get the Murdoch press, the Torygraph, Brucie, etc.,
whingeing about the 5p in the £ extra income tax to pay for it.


I suspect it suspect it wouldn't be just those that would complain about a
5%
income tax raise to pay solely for free train travel!


The idiot lives in London. He must think public transport is
available in the wilds of Cumbria and Northumberland just as it is in
London.

Free train travel to cut down the cost of living in the capital, piad
for by me,l whilst I'll get bugger all but increasing petrol costs. I
know lets all have free petro or diesel, and free cars while we are
it.


Here's an idea, Londoners gets free train travel and we in the sticks are
allowed to use our red Diesel in road vehicles. That's a fair swap.

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Old January 17th 11, 01:39 PM posted to uk.transport.london,uk.railway,uk.finance,uk.local.london
The Other Mike
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On Mon, 17 Jan 2011 09:15:25 +0000, Stimpy
wrote:

On Mon, 17 Jan 2011 08:08:56 +0000, Ian wrote

You would probably get the Murdoch press, the Torygraph, Brucie,
etc., whingeing about the 5p in the £ extra income tax to pay for
it.


Many people would choose to give up running a car,,,,, they would be
better off, even with a 5p increase in the tax rate?


Most people don't live within walking distance of a railway station.
Many don't live within a bus ride of a railway station.
A considerable number don't live within a £20 taxi ride of a railway station.


Make taxis free too

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