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Old February 25th 10, 01:00 PM posted to uk.finance
goodolpete
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Default Pension fund figure v.s amount paid in

Hi,
when I started working at my present firm two years ago
I signed up for their pension scheme with Fidelity -
I contribute 5% of my salary to the scheme and my firm
matches it. I got a statement of my pension options this
month and was surprised to see that although total
contributions by me and my firm have been £7010,
my retirement fund is £5050. Is this level of fees ,
comission, call it what you will, normal?
Regards,
|P
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Old February 25th 10, 02:33 PM posted to uk.finance
RobertL
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Default Pension fund figure v.s amount paid in

On Feb 25, 1:00*pm, goodolpete wrote:
Hi,
*when I started working at my present firm two years ago
I signed up for their pension scheme with Fidelity -
I contribute 5% of my salary to the scheme and my firm
matches it. I got a statement of my pension options this
month and was surprised to see that although total
contributions by me and my firm have been £7010,
my retirement fund is £5050. * Is this level of fees ,
comission, call it what you will, normal?



It is daft isn't it? presumably also their investments have not done
very well.

But when you think about it, if they take 1 or 2% 'management fee'
every year for the whole period you are paying in (say 40 years) then
they will have taken about half the pot by the time you get your
pension.



Robert

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Old February 25th 10, 11:17 PM posted to uk.finance
David Woolley[_2_]
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Default Pension fund figure v.s amount paid in

goodolpete wrote:

contributions by me and my firm have been £7010,
my retirement fund is £5050. Is this level of fees ,
comission, call it what you will, normal?
Regards,


You are quite likely to find a lot of the first year goes in commission,
Also the stock market did crash.
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Old February 26th 10, 08:47 AM posted to uk.finance
Rob graham
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Default Pension fund figure v.s amount paid in

On 25/02/2010 13:00, goodolpete wrote:
Hi,
when I started working at my present firm two years ago
I signed up for their pension scheme with Fidelity -
I contribute 5% of my salary to the scheme and my firm
matches it. I got a statement of my pension options this
month and was surprised to see that although total
contributions by me and my firm have been £7010,
my retirement fund is £5050. Is this level of fees ,
comission, call it what you will, normal?
Regards,
|P


If you look at the illustration Fidelity will have given you at outset
you will see what the charges are and also how much you could expect in
the fund at the end of 1, 2, 3, 4 years - regardless of any commission.
I expect the charges are less than 1% but you can find out.

The illustration will be based on a certain fund growth rate (6%). Did
your fund make this? Have the values of units actually gone down during
this period? Do you know what fund you are in? Why did you choose that
fund? Would you be better in another fund? How have these funds done
against their peers over the last 10 years?

These are questions that I suggest anyone who has more than a passing
interest in their own pensions should be asking.

Rob Graham
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Old February 26th 10, 12:23 PM posted to uk.finance
AnthonyL
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Default Pension fund figure v.s amount paid in

On Fri, 26 Feb 2010 08:47:12 +0000, Rob Graham
wrote:

On 25/02/2010 13:00, goodolpete wrote:
Hi,
when I started working at my present firm two years ago
I signed up for their pension scheme with Fidelity -
I contribute 5% of my salary to the scheme and my firm
matches it. I got a statement of my pension options this
month and was surprised to see that although total
contributions by me and my firm have been £7010,
my retirement fund is £5050. Is this level of fees ,
comission, call it what you will, normal?
Regards,
|P


If you look at the illustration Fidelity will have given you at outset
you will see what the charges are and also how much you could expect in
the fund at the end of 1, 2, 3, 4 years - regardless of any commission.
I expect the charges are less than 1% but you can find out.

The illustration will be based on a certain fund growth rate (6%). Did
your fund make this? Have the values of units actually gone down during
this period? Do you know what fund you are in? Why did you choose that
fund? Would you be better in another fund? How have these funds done
against their peers over the last 10 years?

These are questions that I suggest anyone who has more than a passing
interest in their own pensions should be asking.



I know which funds I'm in. I don't know which funds I should be in


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AnthonyL
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Old February 26th 10, 12:35 PM posted to uk.finance
Rob graham
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Default Pension fund figure v.s amount paid in

On 26/02/2010 12:23, AnthonyL wrote:
On Fri, 26 Feb 2010 08:47:12 +0000, Rob Graham
wrote:

On 25/02/2010 13:00, goodolpete wrote:
Hi,
when I started working at my present firm two years ago
I signed up for their pension scheme with Fidelity -
I contribute 5% of my salary to the scheme and my firm
matches it. I got a statement of my pension options this
month and was surprised to see that although total
contributions by me and my firm have been £7010,
my retirement fund is £5050. Is this level of fees ,
comission, call it what you will, normal?
Regards,
|P


If you look at the illustration Fidelity will have given you at outset
you will see what the charges are and also how much you could expect in
the fund at the end of 1, 2, 3, 4 years - regardless of any commission.
I expect the charges are less than 1% but you can find out.

The illustration will be based on a certain fund growth rate (6%). Did
your fund make this? Have the values of units actually gone down during
this period? Do you know what fund you are in? Why did you choose that
fund? Would you be better in another fund? How have these funds done
against their peers over the last 10 years?

These are questions that I suggest anyone who has more than a passing
interest in their own pensions should be asking.



I know which funds I'm in. I don't know which funds I should be in



In which case you need to do some research or take some advice.

Rob
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Old February 26th 10, 10:04 PM posted to uk.finance
David Woolley[_2_]
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Default Pension fund figure v.s amount paid in

Rob Graham wrote:
On 26/02/2010 12:23, AnthonyL wrote:


I know which funds I'm in. I don't know which funds I should be in


In which case you need to do some research or take some advice.


I think he means that he will only know that after the fact, and no-one,
without a time machine, can give him the right answer, other than by luck.
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Old February 27th 10, 08:54 AM posted to uk.finance
Rob graham
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Default Pension fund figure v.s amount paid in

On 26/02/2010 22:04, David Woolley wrote:
Rob Graham wrote:
On 26/02/2010 12:23, AnthonyL wrote:


I know which funds I'm in. I don't know which funds I should be in


In which case you need to do some research or take some advice.


I think he means that he will only know that after the fact, and no-one,
without a time machine, can give him the right answer, other than by luck.


While that's very true, the OP hasn't said whether the charges (which
will have been explained to him) are causing the problem or is it just
the way the bit of the stockmarket that applies to him has behaved.

Rob
 




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