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Confused about class 2 NIC for self-employed



 
 
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Old January 5th 10, 01:27 PM posted to uk.finance
paulfoel
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Default Confused about class 2 NIC for self-employed

Wife and I have set up our own business although we are both otherwise
employed as well.

Am I right in saying that we'd both have to pay a set rate (£2.40 a
week?) of class 2 NICs as well because of self-employment? Regardless
of how much profit we make or are we exempt if we make less than £5K?

In this case, would it be better for just one of us to declare
ourselves self-employed as a sole trader rather than a partnership so
that only one set of class 2 NICs is paid?
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Old January 5th 10, 08:11 PM posted to uk.finance
neverwas[_3_]
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Default Confused about class 2 NIC for self-employed

paulfoel wrote:
Wife and I have set up our own business although we are both otherwise
employed as well.

Am I right in saying that we'd both have to pay a set rate (£2.40 a
week?) of class 2 NICs as well because of self-employment? Regardless
of how much profit we make or are we exempt if we make less than £5K?


If your (separate) earnings are below £5075 (in 2009-10) you do not have
to pay Class 2 NICs. You need to elect for this "small earnings
exception". See eg http://www.hmrc.gov.uk/forms/cf10.pdf

In this case, would it be better for just one of us to declare
ourselves self-employed as a sole trader rather than a partnership so
that only one set of class 2 NICs is paid?


Depends among other things on whether each of you earn enough from your
employment to accrue state pension entitlement. Class 2 NICs are a
cheap way of doing that - at least, cheaper than volunteering to pay
Class 3.

Note also that if you pay enough NICs from your employment you can apply
to defer the Class 2 NICs even if you are above the small earnings
limit. See eg http://www.hmrc.gov.uk/forms/ca72b.pdf

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Old January 6th 10, 01:45 PM posted to uk.finance
paulfoel
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Default Confused about class 2 NIC for self-employed

On Jan 5, 8:11*pm, "neverwas" wrote:
paulfoel wrote:
Wife and I have set up our own business although we are both otherwise
employed as well.


Am I right in saying that we'd both have to pay a set rate ( 2.40 a
week?) of class 2 NICs as well because of self-employment? Regardless
of how much profit we make or are we exempt if we make less than 5K?


If your (separate) earnings are below 5075 (in 2009-10) you do not have
to pay Class 2 NICs. *You need to elect for this "small earnings
exception". *See eghttp://www.hmrc.gov.uk/forms/cf10.pdf

In this case, would it be better for just one of us to declare
ourselves self-employed as a sole trader rather than a partnership so
that only one set of class 2 NICs is paid?


Depends among other things on whether each of you earn enough from your
employment to accrue state pension entitlement. *Class 2 NICs are a
cheap way of doing that - at least, cheaper than volunteering to pay
Class 3.

Note also that if you pay enough NICs from your employment you can apply
to defer the Class 2 NICs even if you are above the small earnings
limit. *See eghttp://www.hmrc.gov.uk/forms/ca72b.pdf

--
R


Yes. We would both pay enough NI from our day jobs to accrue pension
entitlement.

I didnt realise you could choose not to pay class 2 NICs?
 




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