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Home buyer's insurance?



 
 
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Old June 20th 09, 01:08 PM posted to uk.finance
tim.....
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"Ronald Raygun" wrote in message
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Gareth wrote:

Is it possible to take out an insurance policy which will refund costs
(e.g. survey and conveyancing costs) in the event of a house purchase
falling though?


It's pretty unnecessary.

1) You don't need to pay for a survey because the seller has already had
one carried out on your behalf. It all in the fancy newfangled HIP. :-)


No it's not, they abandoned that idea

tim



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Old June 20th 09, 01:10 PM posted to uk.finance
robgraham
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There may be grey areas as to who's fault it would be that the sale
didn't go though. However, car insurance seems to be possible despite
the difficulty in deciding who's fault an accident is when both parties
blame the other.


It's not quite like that. To avoid expensive litigation insurance companies
often use a 'knock-for-knock' system where each pays their own client's
costs. However, if you feel strongly enough that it is the other's fault,
you can insist that that person's insurers pay out, rather than you lose
your NCB if your own insurer pays you. Often, when pressed that court action
is the next stage, that insurer will pay. However, they may not, in which
case it's up to you whether you take him to court and hope to find him
guilty, in which case his insurer will have to pay. But you may lose the
case, or have to pay some of it. Not a good result.

Rob Graham


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Old June 20th 09, 01:12 PM posted to uk.finance
robgraham
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The best way to ensure the latter doesn't happen is to
make the contract binding at an early stage. That way you can sue the
seller if they pull out.


Yes, and *they* can sue *you* if *you* decide to.

Rob Graham


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Old June 20th 09, 07:59 PM posted to uk.finance
PeterSaxton
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Default Home buyer's insurance?

On 20 June, 12:35, Gareth wrote:
PeterSaxton wrote:
On 20 June, 11:21, Gareth wrote:
PeterSaxton wrote:
On 20 June, 10:22, Gareth wrote:
PeterSaxton wrote:
On 20 June, 09:44, Gareth wrote:
Is it possible to take out an insurance policy which will refund costs
(e.g. survey and conveyancing costs) in the event of a house purchase
falling though?
I have seen this discussed in a few forums but none of the links to seem
to exist anymore.
Thanks for any help.
Gareth
I wouldn't have thought it would be easy to get for two main reasons:
So far, it doesn't seem to be easy to get.
1. the insured would be able to ensure he gets a payout
Isn't that true of almost any insurance? *E.g. I could insure my
house/car then set fire to it? *Anyway I wouldn't be able to profit from
the payout since it would only cover costs.
You wouldn't receive a payout if you set fire to your own house.
Not if they found out that I did it deliberately, but I imagine that
home buyer's insurance would include a similar condition whereby the
policy wouldn't pay out if I did something to prevent the sale going ahead.


How would they be able to show who's fault it was the sale didn't go
ahead?


What I'm looking for is an insurance policy which will pay out if I get
gazumped or if the vendor decides not to sell.

There may be grey areas as to who's fault it would be that the sale
didn't go though. *However, car insurance seems to be possible despite
the difficulty in deciding who's fault an accident is when both parties
blame the other.

I can't see how deciding whether or not a claim on a home buyers
insurance policy is valid is fundamentally any more difficult than
deciding if any other claim is valid.

With car driving there are rules of how to drive. If there is an
accident involving only two cars then somebody must be at fault. There
are no such rules on how to buy or sell a house.
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Old June 20th 09, 11:07 PM posted to uk.finance
BartC
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Default Home buyer's insurance?


"Gareth" wrote in message
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PeterSaxton wrote:
On 20 June, 11:21, Gareth wrote:
PeterSaxton wrote:
On 20 June, 10:22, Gareth wrote:
PeterSaxton wrote:
On 20 June, 09:44, Gareth wrote:
Is it possible to take out an insurance policy which will refund
costs
(e.g. survey and conveyancing costs) in the event of a house
purchase
falling though?
I have seen this discussed in a few forums but none of the links to
seem
to exist anymore.
Thanks for any help.
Gareth
I wouldn't have thought it would be easy to get for two main reasons:
So far, it doesn't seem to be easy to get.
1. the insured would be able to ensure he gets a payout
Isn't that true of almost any insurance? E.g. I could insure my
house/car then set fire to it? Anyway I wouldn't be able to profit
from
the payout since it would only cover costs.
You wouldn't receive a payout if you set fire to your own house.
Not if they found out that I did it deliberately, but I imagine that
home buyer's insurance would include a similar condition whereby the
policy wouldn't pay out if I did something to prevent the sale going
ahead.

How would they be able to show who's fault it was the sale didn't go
ahead?


What I'm looking for is an insurance policy which will pay out if I get
gazumped or if the vendor decides not to sell.


Have you tried Ladbrokes? Ask what odds you can get on you completing your
purchase. Bet enough to cover your costs if it goes wrong.

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Old June 21st 09, 10:47 AM posted to uk.finance
Jonathan Bryce
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Default Home buyer's insurance?

Ronald Raygun wrote:

2) If the sale falls through, no conveyance has occurred, so there should
be no conveyancing costs.


There will be. The solicitor will bill you for the work they did up to the
sale falling through.
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Old June 21st 09, 10:52 AM posted to uk.finance
Gareth
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Default Home buyer's insurance?


BartC wrote:

"Gareth" wrote in message
...

PeterSaxton wrote:
On 20 June, 11:21, Gareth wrote:
PeterSaxton wrote:
On 20 June, 10:22, Gareth wrote:
PeterSaxton wrote:
On 20 June, 09:44, Gareth wrote:
Is it possible to take out an insurance policy which will refund
costs
(e.g. survey and conveyancing costs) in the event of a house
purchase
falling though?
I have seen this discussed in a few forums but none of the links to
seem
to exist anymore.
Thanks for any help.
Gareth
I wouldn't have thought it would be easy to get for two main
reasons:
So far, it doesn't seem to be easy to get.
1. the insured would be able to ensure he gets a payout
Isn't that true of almost any insurance? E.g. I could insure my
house/car then set fire to it? Anyway I wouldn't be able to profit
from
the payout since it would only cover costs.
You wouldn't receive a payout if you set fire to your own house.
Not if they found out that I did it deliberately, but I imagine that
home buyer's insurance would include a similar condition whereby the
policy wouldn't pay out if I did something to prevent the sale going
ahead.

How would they be able to show who's fault it was the sale didn't go
ahead?


What I'm looking for is an insurance policy which will pay out if I get
gazumped or if the vendor decides not to sell.


Have you tried Ladbrokes? Ask what odds you can get on you completing your
purchase. Bet enough to cover your costs if it goes wrong.


Interesting idea.

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Old June 21st 09, 04:59 PM posted to uk.finance
Pete Verdon
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Default Home buyer's insurance?

Jonathan Bryce wrote:
Ronald Raygun wrote:


2) If the sale falls through, no conveyance has occurred, so there should
be no conveyancing costs.


There will be. The solicitor will bill you for the work they did up to the
sale falling through.


Mine would not have done - it's part of their normal terms for
conveyancing. They're a fairly large firm locally, so I guess they're
able to spread the costs of failed conveyances as a kind of
self-insurance - presumably they consider it a good incentive for people
to choose them.

Pete
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Old December 7th 09, 10:17 AM
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I haven't heard of any such insurance policy which helps in such situation but there are some insurance which aid indirectly
 




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