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UK VAT rip-off?



 
 
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  #11  
Old June 7th 09, 05:41 PM posted to uk.finance
Tom E
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Default UK VAT rip-off?


"Mrcheerful" wrote in message
om...
Tom E wrote:
"Debbie" wrote in message
...
A friend of mine has the following VAT problem:

Before I ring the VAT helpline on Monday, I thought I might ask for
opinions here ...

I purchased a Canon f4L 300mm IS lens for £1089.90 from Amazon.co.uk.
Since they are a reputable UK retailer, I expected a VAT receipt to
allow me to reclaim the VAT. Unfortunately, the receipt supplied just
shows VAT as "blank". I have asked them for a new one, but no response
so far.

The lens was actually supplied by their "partner" called
SimplyElectronics, based on the Isle of Man. Their website shows the
same lens as costing £949.95 i.e. pretty much ex-VAT for a company
being outside of the UK.

To me, it looks like Amazon have charged and pocketed the VAT at my
expense.

Any comments, or advice?

Thanks,
Debs


If the op has stated she wants to claim the VAT back WHY are posters
saying
only matters if the op is VAT registered. Why would she say she wants to
claim it back if she is NOT registered.

I did not see the OP say that he/she was trying to claim anything back,
she will not be able to reclaim vat unless she is registered for vat.
Therefore if she is not vat registered then it does not matter whether she
gets a vat bill or not, she has just paid a total price, the one she
agreed to before purchase. Or am I completely missing the actual
question?



she says........I expected a VAT receipt to allow me to reclaim the VAT.


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  #12  
Old June 7th 09, 06:22 PM posted to uk.finance
MrCheerful
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Default UK VAT rip-off?

Tom E wrote:
"Mrcheerful" wrote in message
om...
Tom E wrote:
"Debbie" wrote in message
...
A friend of mine has the following VAT problem:

Before I ring the VAT helpline on Monday, I thought I might ask for
opinions here ...

I purchased a Canon f4L 300mm IS lens for £1089.90 from
Amazon.co.uk. Since they are a reputable UK retailer, I expected a
VAT receipt to allow me to reclaim the VAT. Unfortunately, the
receipt supplied just shows VAT as "blank". I have asked them for a
new one, but no response so far.

The lens was actually supplied by their "partner" called
SimplyElectronics, based on the Isle of Man. Their website shows the
same lens as costing £949.95 i.e. pretty much ex-VAT for a company
being outside of the UK.

To me, it looks like Amazon have charged and pocketed the VAT at my
expense.

Any comments, or advice?

Thanks,
Debs


If the op has stated she wants to claim the VAT back WHY are posters
saying
only matters if the op is VAT registered. Why would she say she
wants to claim it back if she is NOT registered.

I did not see the OP say that he/she was trying to claim anything
back, she will not be able to reclaim vat unless she is registered
for vat. Therefore if she is not vat registered then it does not
matter whether she gets a vat bill or not, she has just paid a total
price, the one she agreed to before purchase. Or am I completely
missing the actual question?



she says........I expected a VAT receipt to allow me to reclaim the
VAT.


I am blind.!!
she still only needs a vat number on the bill in order to reclaim the vat
amount.



  #13  
Old June 7th 09, 06:48 PM posted to uk.finance
Tom E
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Default UK VAT rip-off?


"Mrcheerful" wrote in message
om...
Tom E wrote:
"Mrcheerful" wrote in message
om...
Tom E wrote:
"Debbie" wrote in message
...
A friend of mine has the following VAT problem:

Before I ring the VAT helpline on Monday, I thought I might ask for
opinions here ...

I purchased a Canon f4L 300mm IS lens for £1089.90 from
Amazon.co.uk. Since they are a reputable UK retailer, I expected a
VAT receipt to allow me to reclaim the VAT. Unfortunately, the
receipt supplied just shows VAT as "blank". I have asked them for a
new one, but no response so far.

The lens was actually supplied by their "partner" called
SimplyElectronics, based on the Isle of Man. Their website shows the
same lens as costing £949.95 i.e. pretty much ex-VAT for a company
being outside of the UK.

To me, it looks like Amazon have charged and pocketed the VAT at my
expense.

Any comments, or advice?

Thanks,
Debs

If the op has stated she wants to claim the VAT back WHY are posters
saying
only matters if the op is VAT registered. Why would she say she
wants to claim it back if she is NOT registered.

I did not see the OP say that he/she was trying to claim anything
back, she will not be able to reclaim vat unless she is registered
for vat. Therefore if she is not vat registered then it does not
matter whether she gets a vat bill or not, she has just paid a total
price, the one she agreed to before purchase. Or am I completely
missing the actual question?



she says........I expected a VAT receipt to allow me to reclaim the
VAT.


I am blind.!!
she still only needs a vat number on the bill in order to reclaim the vat
amount.





correct....


  #14  
Old June 8th 09, 08:47 AM posted to uk.finance
PeterSaxton
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Default UK VAT rip-off?

On 7 June, 19:22, "Mrcheerful" wrote:
Tom E wrote:
"Mrcheerful" wrote in message
. com...
Tom E wrote:
"Debbie" wrote in message
....
A friend of mine has the following VAT problem:


Before I ring the VAT helpline on Monday, I thought I might ask for
opinions here ...


I purchased a Canon f4L 300mm IS lens for £1089.90 from
Amazon.co.uk. Since they are a reputable UK retailer, I expected a
VAT receipt to allow me to reclaim the VAT. Unfortunately, the
receipt supplied just shows VAT as "blank". I have asked them for a
new one, but no response so far.


The lens was actually supplied by their "partner" called
SimplyElectronics, based on the Isle of Man. Their website shows the
same lens as costing £949.95 i.e. pretty much ex-VAT for a company
being outside of the UK.


To me, it looks like Amazon have charged and pocketed the VAT at my
expense.


Any comments, or advice?


Thanks,
Debs


If the op has stated she wants to claim the VAT back WHY are posters
saying
only matters if the op is VAT registered. Why would she say she
wants to claim it back if she is NOT registered.


I did not see the OP say that he/she was trying to claim anything
back, she will not be able to reclaim vat unless she is registered
for vat. Therefore if she is not vat registered then it does not
matter whether she gets a vat bill or not, she has just paid a total
price, the one she agreed to before purchase. *Or am I completely
missing the actual question?


she says........I expected a VAT receipt to allow me to reclaim the
VAT.


I am blind.!!
she still only needs a vat number on the bill in order to reclaim the vat
amount.


A VAT number alone is insufficient.

The amount of VAT needs to be shown.

http://www.hmrc.gov.uk/vat/managing/...t-invoices.htm


  #15  
Old June 8th 09, 12:22 PM posted to uk.finance
neverwas[_3_]
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Default UK VAT rip-off?

She didn't buy it from Amazon. She bought it from a company on the
IoM.



Possibly. But the site has also in T&C:

"SimplyElectronics Limited
20th Floor, Trendy Centre
682 Castle Peak Road
Kowloon
HongKong"

also (their caps):

"ALL TRANSACTIONS CONCLUDED THROUGH THE SITE, INCLUDING PURCHASES OF
PRODUCTS ON THE SITE, SHALL BE DEEMED TO BE CONDUCTED UNDER AND GOVERNED
BY THE LAWS OF THE HONG KONG SPECIAL ADMINISTRATIVE REGION."

--
R


 




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